06:16:20 Meghan Martin: Reacted to "I got it!" with ❀️ 06:17:53 SUNY COIL Center: Go Daniel!! 06:19:09 Holly Rey: Hi Daniel! I used to follow your blog when you were at DePaul! 06:19:32 Holly Rey: Greetings from the Chicagoland πŸ™‚! 06:19:35 SUNY COIL Center: 🀣 06:19:48 Diana Ruggiero: LOL 06:19:49 Doris O (Adirondack): 🀣 06:19:51 Diana Ruggiero: I will use that 06:20:23 Jill Nobles: Will this session be recorded? I have to go teach but this is the one I really wanted to see, 06:20:31 Diana Ruggiero: record 06:20:33 SUNY COIL Center: Daniel also made this website we use with SUNY COIL https://whatisculture.org/ 06:20:33 Chrisie Mitchell: it's recording :) 06:20:46 Jill Nobles: Reacted to "it's recording :)" with πŸ‘ 06:21:13 SUNY COIL Center: https://www.iddblog.org/videoconferencing-alternatives-how-low-bandwidth-teaching-will-save-us-all/ 06:21:14 Diana Ruggiero: Great attention 06:21:41 John (he/him) Zelenak: yes 06:21:42 Holly Rey: Yes 06:21:43 Loy: Yep! 06:21:43 sandra: yes 06:21:44 Courtney Crimmins: yes 06:21:44 Diana Ruggiero: yes 06:21:45 Evan Ogg Straub: yes 06:21:46 Sanghyun Jeon: yes 06:21:46 Lisa Hibbard: Yes! 06:21:47 sydney.rice: Yes 06:21:47 Jamie Tabone (Buffalo State): yes 06:21:48 LCoakley: yes 06:21:49 Mukul Acharya: Yes 06:21:49 Kate Bohan, New Paltz: Yes 06:21:51 Brian Gomez: πŸ‘ 06:21:53 Sue: yes 06:21:54 Annie Shibata: No! but planning to! 06:21:55 Aundrea Caraway (she/her): yes 06:21:55 Sarah Sproule: Yes 06:21:59 Brian T. Murphy, Nassau Community College: Yes, definitely 06:21:59 Jeff Courtright: Yes 06:22:00 Sandra Vigilant: yes 06:22:02 Sergio TroitiΓ±o: Yes 06:22:05 SUNY COIL Center: read the NY Times articles 06:22:07 Nira Herrmann: Tried but it was too busy to let me on 06:22:12 Stan Skrabut: Wrote a book on and with it ;-) 06:22:13 Chrisie Mitchell: http://pollev.com/daniel2 06:23:09 Ken English (UB): Just tried it (and ran into the common issue of it not being entirely accurate). 06:23:24 SUNY COIL Center: all 06:23:40 SUNY COIL Center: Jackson Pollock 06:23:43 FSU Michelle Hixson, Frostburg State, she/her: Pollock 06:23:51 SUNY COIL Center: Rothko 06:23:54 Sara Makiya: Rothko 06:24:03 justin ible: Ukraine flag colours 06:24:04 Jen Nettleton (SUNY Empire): Love Pollock's work! 06:24:39 Oana Cimpean: Rothkos are very expensive, so A 06:25:07 Ken English (UB): C - Because you just never know with art 06:25:15 SUNY COIL Center: AI influenced Jackson Pollock 06:25:23 Nirvani Persaud: C looks like a Kandinsky 06:25:25 Jen Nettleton (SUNY Empire): B because maybe there is a hidden message behind it 06:25:35 Doris O (Adirondack): C Picasso? 06:25:36 FSU Michelle Hixson, Frostburg State, she/her: Picasso 06:25:36 Roberta (Robin) Sullivan - UB: Picasso? 06:25:37 justin ible: Replying to "B because maybe ther..." I tried to find one 06:25:39 Kim Monti: Picasso 06:25:49 Doris O (Adirondack): B the pumpkin dots lady? 06:25:50 Jen Nettleton (SUNY Empire): yeah for B. 06:25:56 TaeKyung Park: I got B because it looks like B will be mostly used the most 06:26:03 SUNY COIL Center: Kusama ! 06:26:16 SUNY COIL Center: Yayoi !! Love her work 06:26:46 Lisa Hibbard: I saw her documentary. Very good! 06:26:55 SUNY COIL Center: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yayoi_Kusama 06:27:14 Chrisie Mitchell: Doris was right too lol 06:27:30 Chrisie Mitchell: http://pollev.com/daniel2 06:28:20 Carrie Hoefer: A looks like a delish PBJ sandwich! 06:28:29 Meghan Martin: Reacted to "A looks like a delis..." with πŸ˜‚ 06:28:38 Jacqueline Atkins: the eyes arewonky on c 06:28:39 Prof Levy (she/her): simple 06:28:43 Sandra Vigilant: It doesn't have the AI icon 06:28:44 Hailey Ruoff - Cortland: Reacted to "A looks like a delis..." with πŸ‘πŸ» 06:28:47 Brian Gomez: AI does not do hands well. 06:28:54 Marisa: You can usually tell by the eyes/hands/background that it's AI 06:28:57 Chrisie Mitchell: That's what I was thinking Brian 06:28:58 Jen Nettleton (SUNY Empire): mashed together photos for B and C 06:28:59 SUNY COIL Center: Reacted to "mashed together phot..." with 🀣 06:29:07 Jill Nobles: Are you asking about the objects themselves or the photos of the objects? Both could be considered art. 06:29:21 TaeKyung Park: C looks most delicate to create and still human is better at creating delicate stuff. 06:29:25 Sarah Sangregorio (she/they): If you use the Present button, PE would go full screen. 06:29:26 Marisa: If the prompt isn't detailed 06:29:29 Chrisie Mitchell: lol 06:29:32 Marisa: XD 06:29:47 Nirvani Persaud: πŸ˜‚ 06:29:50 Jacqueline Atkins: lol 06:30:03 Sandra Vigilant: πŸ˜‚ 06:30:15 FSU Michelle Hixson, Frostburg State, she/her: Love Dall-E!! 06:30:19 Chrisie Mitchell: prompt: muppet on the runway 06:30:23 Stan Skrabut: I prefer MidJourney 06:30:27 Meghan Martin: Reacted to "prompt: muppet on th..." with πŸ˜‚ 06:30:33 Jen Nettleton (SUNY Empire): Reacted to "prompt: muppet on th..." with πŸ˜‚ 06:30:34 Chrisie Mitchell: rofl 06:30:42 Doris O (Adirondack): 🀣 06:30:49 Chrisie Mitchell: okay it got that one pretty well 06:30:53 Marisa: Reacted to "I prefer MidJourney" with πŸ‘ 06:31:11 Chrisie Mitchell: http://pollev.com/daniel2 06:31:13 Lisa Hibbard: I thought Ronald looked like Jesse Plemmons the actor. 06:31:23 FSU Michelle Hixson, Frostburg State, she/her: Reacted to "I thought Ronald loo..." with πŸ‘ 06:32:05 justin ible: wouldn't grade it 06:32:09 Maureen Larsen: I would give this an A, assuming this was drawn by a person and not AI 06:32:54 Chrisie Mitchell: It's definitely a drawing, the eyes 06:32:58 Kelly Roark: Well, assuming it met the requirements, on paper, in pencil, or whatever 06:33:04 Meghan Martin: I gave it an A because I could never 06:33:12 Carlos Jones: I would not grade it… 06:33:16 Brian T. Murphy, Nassau Community College: IF a drawing BY A STUDENT. 06:33:42 TaeKyung Park: I have no eye for artworks. So, anyone who do better job than me gets A :) 06:33:48 Chrisie Mitchell: manual rasterbation 06:33:55 justin ible: only if it aligned with the learning outcomes 06:34:03 Carlos Jones: Reacted to "only if it aligned w…" with πŸ‘πŸ½ 06:34:06 Joanna Spice: Reacted to "I have no eye for ar..." with πŸ‘ 06:34:16 Stan Skrabut: Reacted to "I have no eye for ar..." with πŸ‘ 06:34:24 Matt Lewis: Reacted to "only if it aligned w..." with πŸ‘πŸ½ 06:34:25 Maureen Larsen: If that is the way it was drawn, I would only give it a C. 06:34:33 Sarah Sangregorio (she/they): Reacted to "only if it aligned w..." with πŸ‘πŸ½ 06:34:33 Roberta (Robin) Sullivan - UB: I’d still give an A, but it would depend on if that was explicitly stated as not being allowed. 06:34:34 Brian T. Murphy, Nassau Community College: That's a totally legit approach, so unless I hadn't forbidden it, no change. 06:34:34 Kelly Roark: no 06:34:43 Joanna Spice: Reacted to "That's a totally leg..." with πŸ‘ 06:34:47 Markus Erndl | QC CUNY: What was the assignment? 06:34:49 Maureen Larsen: In my mind (Iam not an art teacher) I would guess they could not draw it that way. 06:35:00 Carlos Jones: It depends on the goal And the outcomes 06:35:06 Matt Lewis: Reacted to "It depends on the go..." with πŸ‘ 06:35:06 Joanna Spice: Reacted to "It depends on the go..." with πŸ‘ 06:35:19 Monica Swindle (she/her): Reacted to "It depends on the go..." with πŸ‘πŸ» 06:35:25 Stan Skrabut: Reacted to "It depends on the go..." with πŸ‘ 06:35:31 Sarah Sangregorio (she/they): Reacted to "It depends on the go..." with πŸ‘πŸ» 06:35:35 Roberta (Robin) Sullivan - UB: Reacted to "That's a totally leg..." with πŸ‘ 06:35:35 Nira Herrmann: Didn't Vermeer do this sort of thing with a pinhole camera? 06:35:36 Kristin Hall: Using a grid method is actually commonly taught as part of an art class. 06:35:37 Diana Ruggiero: For the painting which one of the correct one? 06:35:50 Chrisie Mitchell: @Diana: it was B 06:35:54 SUNY COIL Center: using a grid is de rigeur in art making.. 06:35:55 Helena Hubl: I mean, even the masters used grids! 06:36:02 Kristin Hall: Reacted to "I mean, even the mas..." with πŸ‘ 06:36:12 SUNY COIL Center: grids are us... 06:36:12 Crystal Faulkner: Griding can help with accessibility 06:36:15 Sara Makiya: Depends on the course/assignment - this is a common technique in realism drawing classes 06:36:27 Maureen Larsen: I agree. Using a grid is not allowing freeform drawing to occur 06:36:28 Helena Hubl: You can't even make a mural without a grid. 06:36:36 Jacob Feldman: Are shortcuts so bad? Historically, artists would mix their paints and pigments, now we just squeeze paint out of a tube πŸ™‚ 06:36:36 Prof Levy (she/her): The teacher should have given them the ability to do it that way. I like the innovation. 06:36:37 Kate Bohan, New Paltz: My high school children are both artists and in art classes and they are taught to start with a grid to learn a sense of proportion 06:36:39 Joanna Spice: What if the point is to learn the skill - FORMATIVE? 06:36:49 Sara Makiya: Using a grid is often scaffolding for freehand drawing 06:36:51 Judie Littlejohn (she/her): The wall and the shirt have the same texture, which is confusing. 06:37:49 Chrisie Mitchell: https://pollev.com/daniel2 06:38:10 Jen Nettleton (SUNY Empire): Forehead looks off 06:38:12 justin ible: a camera, therefore AI 06:38:17 Maureen Larsen: Looks like a photo but I do not know who would have taken it. 06:38:19 Sarah Sangregorio (she/they): But wait, D iS the subject. 06:38:27 SUNY COIL Center: Sherry Levine... 06:38:41 SUNY COIL Center: Post modernist artist 06:38:46 Helena Hubl: This is a famous image 06:38:52 Jacob Feldman: Reacted to "This is a famous ima..." with πŸ‘ 06:38:52 Jacqueline Atkins: the neck muscles are off 06:38:55 FSU Michelle Hixson, Frostburg State, she/her: Looks like the famous image but it's in the style 06:38:57 justin ible: Replying to "a camera, therefore ..." unles it was film and manual 06:38:59 Judie Littlejohn (she/her): Looks like they started with Ruth from Ozark 06:39:02 Monica Swindle (she/her): Because there wasn't an option to choose more than one option. 06:39:07 Camille Karlson: Thanks for posting the poll link Christie! 06:39:15 SUNY COIL Center: Sherry Levine took a photo of a photo 06:39:17 Monica Swindle (she/her): Because there wasn't an option to choose more than one author. 06:39:18 kah8262: I thought this photo was done by Dorothy Lange which was not an answer choice. 06:39:23 Scott Silverman: Did this start as real and then modified by AI? 06:40:19 Maureen Larsen: That is terrible. 06:40:21 justin ible: that's awesome 06:40:28 Matt Lewis: I thought awesome oto 06:40:31 Chrisie Mitchell: This is why I'm not an artist lol 06:40:32 Annie Shibata: Fascinating! 06:40:33 Kris Lynch (SUNY CPD): Good Art makes you think, right? 06:40:37 Maureen Larsen: That should not be allowed. 06:40:44 SUNY COIL Center: Reacted to "That should not be a..." with 🀣 06:40:59 Marisa: πŸ˜‚ 06:41:01 Chrisie Mitchell: I agree with dan, I hate modern art but it can say stuff 06:41:03 Helena Hubl: Yes, but they did it first! 06:41:04 Nirvani Persaud: "What is authorship?" "What is originality?" Well-put! 06:41:17 Jacob Feldman: R Mutt & Fountain. 06:41:28 Helena Hubl: Reacted to "R Mutt & Fountain." with πŸ‘ 06:41:38 Helena Hubl: Exactly @jacob! 06:42:06 Maureen Larsen: Taking a picture of someone else's picture and displaying it as your own ? Why is that okay? 06:42:24 Chrisie Mitchell: @Maureen: because it's conceptual art 06:42:39 Ken English (UB): That gets to the root of ChatGPT - what was it trained on - was permission given 06:42:47 Maureen Larsen: Disagree. That is cheating by another term. SMH 06:42:56 Doris O (Adirondack): 🀣 06:43:16 Chrisie Mitchell: Now I'm sorry I said the eyes looked bad 06:43:40 Jacob Feldman: This is a just a new problem for writing, but it's existed for music for years. Sampling and synthesizing sounds is a core mechanic in a lot of music now, and it's something we're not only comfortable with, but have come to expect. 06:43:41 Feng-Ru Sheu: 🀣 06:43:51 Chrisie Mitchell: @jacob: exactly 06:43:56 Nirvani Persaud: I think the larger message is about ownership and appropriation (re the Levine photo) 06:43:59 Hope Windle@SUNYCOIL: Sampling is part of our culture. 06:44:23 FSU Michelle Hixson, Frostburg State, she/her: firefox works best! 06:44:31 Maureen Larsen: Sampling yes, but taking a picture of a picture is absolute copying. Makes no sense. 06:44:46 justin ible: Replying to "Sampling is part of ..." wonder if it a new to our culture and existed in others for generations are more already 06:44:57 Camille Karlson: How about giving memory and thinking over to technology creating space so that the brain can work in new ways that we don't yet understand. 06:45:03 Chrisie Mitchell: chat.openai.com 06:45:18 Jacob Feldman: Reacted to "How about giving mem..." with πŸ‘ 06:45:20 Chrisie Mitchell: https://chat.openai.com 06:45:36 Hope Windle@SUNYCOIL: but Maureen, this has been done for centuries by people copying people. The different was that She was explicitly OPEN in what she was doing on purpose. 06:45:37 Maureen Larsen: I have an account 06:46:10 Maureen Larsen: @Hope - but to display the work and gain fame for it -- sorry. That is as wrong as it gets. 06:46:14 Roberta (Robin) Sullivan - UB: I have heard that those who create an account have an easier time getting in. 06:46:25 Chrisie Mitchell: http://bit.ly/chatgpt-examples 06:46:31 Maureen Larsen: The fact that others allow it undermines the right that anyone has to their own work. 06:47:36 justin ible: sounds like an open to me 06:47:42 Maureen Larsen: I am on Chat GPT now 06:47:47 justin ible: Replying to "sounds like an open ..." opinion 06:47:53 Chrisie Mitchell: I can't look over your multitasking shoulders but make sure you're doing it 06:48:16 Jacob Feldman: Generative Pre-trained Transformer 06:48:17 Reed: generative pre-trained transformer, 06:48:17 Stan Skrabut: Generative pre-trained transformer 06:48:25 Diana Ruggiero: Generative Pre-Trained Transformer 06:48:26 Hope Windle@SUNYCOIL: Reacted to "Generative Pre-Train..." with 🀣 06:48:32 Doris O (Adirondack): Reacted to "Generative Pre-Train..." with 🀣 06:48:32 John (he/him) Zelenak: more than meets the eye! 06:48:33 Annie Shibata: Oh, THAT's easy to remember. Sheesh 06:48:35 TaeKyung Park: My first time to sign up GPT and it is wired that it checked if I am not a robot or am a human. 06:48:35 kev: Nerd pride! 06:48:46 Meghan Martin: Reacted to "Nerd pride!" with ❀️ 06:48:46 Doris O (Adirondack): Reacted to "Nerd pride!" with πŸ‘ 06:48:47 Hope Windle@SUNYCOIL: 🌈πŸ₯³ 06:48:53 Marisa: Reacted to "more than meets the ..." with πŸ˜‚ 06:51:42 FSU Michelle Hixson, Frostburg State, she/her: When requesting academic citations in my ChatGPT demo experience, the cites aren't actually located. 06:52:21 Camille Karlson: It speaks from "I" 06:52:23 Maureen Larsen: I had the same experience in the past. It provided citations but they did not work. 06:52:36 John (he/him) Zelenak: did it cite it's own article? 06:52:40 Jacob Feldman: Hilariously, I've asked ChatGPT for a list of academic sources for a lit review, and almost all of the resources it returned didn't exist, but the authors and journals did. 06:52:58 Antonia Levy: I also had the experience of cited references not being real (I could not find them anywhere, as if they were made up) 06:53:04 Jacob Feldman: Replying to "It speaks from "I"" You can ask it why it uses the pronoun I, it gives a good response. 06:53:33 justin ible: Replying to "Hilariously, I've as..." There is an AI that is supposed to specialize in faciliting research - will see if I can find it 06:53:43 Stan Skrabut: The more specific you are, the better the results. 06:55:33 Lisa Hibbard: I've asked it to revise my resume. As an instructional designer, I use it to revise content to make it more succinct to use in creating online training. It is also good use as a conversation starter, helping to get past a "writer block." It helps to launch ideas. 06:55:43 Terrance Keys: Reacted to "I've asked it to rev..." with πŸ‘ 06:55:48 Matt Lewis: Reacted to "I've asked it to rev..." with πŸ‘ 06:55:52 Reed: Reacted to "I've asked it to rev..." with πŸ‘ 06:55:57 Chrisie Mitchell: I used it to write annual report/KPI chunks that I revise after LOL 06:56:03 Reed: Reacted to "The more specific yo..." with πŸ‘πŸΌ 06:56:13 Marisa: Reacted to "I've asked it to rev..." with πŸ‘ 06:56:13 Hope Windle@SUNYCOIL: Reacted to "I used it to write a..." with 🌈 06:56:19 Kate Bengtson: There are other AI tools like Elicit that get those sources for you pretty well. 06:56:31 Stan Skrabut: I have created a very detailed prompt that will generate a report that will provide: Course Description 2. Target Audience 3. Recommended Reading List 4. Course Goals and Outcomes 5. 8-week Course Outline with Recommended Learning Objectives, Course Content, Learning Activities, Learning Assessments https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vWSjDs9XbmvDTu49ZOyCPAtDnwC6DKPsuc7yjNqQhVw/edit?usp=sharing 06:56:32 Kate Bengtson: I use Elicit as a good research starting point. 06:56:33 Ursula Sorensen: Reacted to "I've asked it to rev..." with πŸ‘πŸΌ 06:56:39 Hope Windle@SUNYCOIL: Replying to "I used it to write a..." cool idea.. as a starter for the dreaded Annual Report! LOVE THAT IDEA!! 06:56:39 Roberta (Robin) Sullivan - UB: @Lisa - I’ve used ChatGPT to provide summaries of larger docs and it has done a decent job. 06:56:42 Ken English (UB): I just tried it out to have it compare Packback Deep Dive and Turn It In Draft Coach. It β€œthought” Packback was just for discussions, not writing. 06:56:47 Jacob Feldman: It even made up resources when I specifically asked it to return existing resources. As if it wasn't capable of saying "sorry, I can't find any" 06:57:05 Crystal Faulkner: Replying to "@Lisa - I’ve used Ch..." Do you have to feed it the document first or it has to already be in its database? 06:57:11 Maureen Larsen: @Ken - cool. 06:57:11 Jacob Feldman: Reacted to "I have created a ver..." with πŸ‘ 06:57:19 Nirvani Persaud: What strikes me in the response, as has struck me with a ChatGPT essay I've received for an introductory Composition class, is the level of "polish" or supposed revision in the writing itself. It was a dead giveaway! 06:57:45 Jacob Feldman: Replying to "I have created a ver..." Wow! 06:57:47 Nirvani Persaud: Too flawless, error, not necessarily content-wise. 06:57:54 Monica Swindle (she/her): I asked it if it could lie, and it said no. 06:58:02 Nirvani Persaud: Reacted to "I asked it if it cou..." with πŸ˜… 06:58:02 justin ible: Replying to "I just tried it out ..." wonder if it only reads one page or a page and not the entire website - then how does this address articles 06:58:45 Ken English (UB): My memory is that Stack Overflow banned it because though responses might look right, once you dig in you find the details flawed 06:58:47 Chrisie Mitchell: Replying to "I just tried it out ..." I'm wonder if it's because Packback Deep Dive isn't it it's learning set since it's fairly new? 06:58:50 Maureen Larsen: I asked it if it could lie. Here is the response: "As an artificial intelligence language model, I do not have personal beliefs or intentions, nor do I have the ability to lie or tell the truth. My responses are generated based on statistical patterns learned from the text data I was trained on, and I strive to provide the most accurate and helpful responses possible based on that training data. However, it is important to note that the accuracy and truthfulness of my responses depend on the quality and completeness of the training data, and I may generate responses that are inaccurate or misleading if the input I receive is unclear, ambiguous, or incomplete." 06:58:58 Reed: Reacted to "My memory is that St..." with πŸ‘πŸΌ 06:59:07 Chrisie Mitchell: HELL YES 06:59:12 FSU Michelle Hixson, Frostburg State, she/her: oops 06:59:18 Helena Hubl: 😝 06:59:20 Chrisie Mitchell: I citied a paper that didn't exist 06:59:20 justin ible: Reacted to "I'm wonder if it's b..." with πŸ‘πŸΌ 06:59:21 Brian Gomez: Who would ever do that... 06:59:24 Marisa: Reacted to "I have created a ver..." with πŸ‘ 06:59:27 Kris Lynch (SUNY CPD): Just maybe.... LOL 06:59:29 Scott Silverman: work smart, not hard! 06:59:35 Sanghyun Jeon: I believe we must apply our intelligence and judgment to everything including public broadcasting, research papers and ChatGPT 06:59:40 Stan Skrabut: How many provide attribution to a syllabus you created where you borrowed ideas from others. 06:59:40 Reed: Replying to "My memory is that St..." It apparently gets code incredibly right and incredibly wrong. Similar to other kinds of uses, Ken. 06:59:59 justin ible: Replying to "I asked it if it cou..." that sounds like propoganda 07:00:30 Chrisie Mitchell: It's just trying to find patterns 07:00:37 Maureen Larsen: Exactly -- that is basically what it says. The information it presents depends on the question. 07:00:41 Nirvani Persaud: Interesting article in the NYTimes today by Noam Chomsky, Ian Roberts (a professor of linguistics) and Jeffrey Watumull, an AI director at a science and technology company: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/08/opinion/noam-chomsky-chatgpt-ai.html 07:00:49 Kris Lynch (SUNY CPD): I tell Alexa thank you..... 07:00:56 Brian T. Murphy, Nassau Community College: Agreed. That's exactly why AI is such a problematic term! 07:00:58 Crystal Faulkner: Good manners 07:01:01 Meghan Martin: Reacted to "I tell Alexa thank y..." with ❀️ 07:01:03 Annie Shibata: I am frequently swearing at SIRI! 07:01:05 Chrisie Mitchell: and so are we, trying to find patterns, and since the human brain is a pattern finder, we find other things that find patterns easy to anthropomorphise 07:01:06 Ken English (UB): Some of the conversation (lying, making mistakes) seems to imply agency 07:01:11 Nirvani Persaud: Noam Chomsky: The False Promise of ChatGPT The most prominent strain of A.I. encodes a flawed conception of language and knowledge. 07:01:12 Maureen Larsen: Unfortunately you need a paid subscription to read that article. 07:01:24 Prof Levy (she/her): YES!!! 07:01:36 Nirvani Persaud: I'll send a gift link 07:01:40 Roberta (Robin) Sullivan - UB: Reacted to "I'm wonder if it's b..." with πŸ‘πŸΌ 07:02:00 Nirvani Persaud: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/08/opinion/noam-chomsky-chatgpt-ai.html?unlocked_article_code=0qOak4XHK-0CUfNFHh3T8YgXJHomm77FjlDz__JYFTLgvbkUbnlmVx2ax-1OSG1q8Xc0-YAaG-GepoIpa790SLweBlvcJvluLkdsPSo09kt18my5rYIZ1ktlMT2BH_VcPGbgVN1XcRNImNN3PacyDXIzf5y2o70TqTn9kDNtvn8ZfLbkC_uH8RnB_jNOjWHPIaFAf_JS6bbuyiomd7XcQL-PYF5gaeLzN4xI5NstmJqI3vtRX4snb8bTfbDFjj5nnKee4kqbHwqCDGKYy7CzFmgRUj7n7rJmul9dmsOzSmgzs2ijJ01Am4vFKUJyWOmw_O1vKCQG3dmR3shmYCGr7YqR&smid=url-share 07:02:14 Chrisie Mitchell: haha 07:02:36 Maureen Larsen: It always apologizes. I am always catching it providing wrong information. 07:02:36 Kris Lynch (SUNY CPD): Reacted to "https://www.nytimes...." with πŸ™‚ 07:02:43 Sue: Reacted to "https://www.nytime..." with πŸ‘ 07:02:47 Maureen Larsen: It usually responds that it is not perfect. 07:02:49 Maureen Larsen: lol 07:02:49 Brian Chervitz (He/Him): Reacted to "https://www.nytimes...." with πŸ‘ 07:03:08 Roberta (Robin) Sullivan - UB: Replying to "@Lisa - I’ve used Ch..." In my case, I wanted the AI to summarize a doc that I was writing, so I copied in the text. 07:03:09 Prof Levy (she/her): Can we move on......need more tools to HOW to deal with this best. 07:03:10 Terrance Keys: Reacted to "I believe we must ap..." with πŸ‘ 07:03:15 justin ible: Reacted to "Can we move on........." with πŸ‘πŸΌ 07:03:29 Crystal Faulkner: Reacted to "In my case, I wanted..." with πŸ‘ 07:03:30 Brian T. Murphy, Nassau Community College: Noam Chomsky: The False Promise of ChatGPT is also available here: https://dnyuz.com/2023/03/08/noam-chomsky-the-false-promise-of-chatgpt/ 07:03:33 Maureen Larsen: There are sites that can detect AI writing. 07:03:40 Camille Karlson: sinister.... 07:03:46 Chrisie Mitchell: https://gptzero.me/ 07:03:48 Prof Levy (she/her): https://openai-openai-detector.hf.space/ 07:03:50 Reed: Listen to HardFork podcast to hear the full story. MS has since limited the tool 07:03:55 Prof Levy (she/her): https://app.gptzero.me/app/welcome 07:03:58 Helena Hubl: gptzero isn't foolproof 07:04:00 Maureen Larsen: @Brian - thank you. 07:04:29 Chrisie Mitchell: No, it has a 10% false positive rate so the best way to "solve" the "problem" is to look at assessments, honestly 07:04:39 Nirvani Persaud: Reacted to "Noam Chomsky: The Fa..." with πŸ‘πŸ½ 07:04:51 Jacob Feldman: recommended reading: https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/chinese-room/ 07:05:15 Roberta (Robin) Sullivan - UB: Reacted to "I have created a ver..." with πŸ‘ 07:05:47 Sheila Bustillos: Im not sure if they can answer...can you use ths resource to code and theme qualitative data? What are the ethics/benefits/challenges to this? 07:06:07 Prof Levy (she/her): https://copyleaks.com/ai-content-detector 07:06:14 Stan Skrabut: chatGPT is built on GPT3. The next iteration is coming out in late spring/early summer. It is reported to be 10-100X more powerful. 07:06:32 Roberta (Robin) Sullivan - UB: Replying to "I tell Alexa thank y..." Me too. 07:06:36 Camille Karlson: presents multiple moral and ethical dilemma's 07:06:49 Roberta (Robin) Sullivan - UB: Replying to "I am frequently swea..." Me too. 07:07:15 Stan Skrabut: Powerful tool to bring into the classroom to develop critical thinking. 07:07:16 Reed: For now, Microsoft locked Bing’s long conversations and Sydney identity down … see β€œMicrosoft limits Bing chat to five replies to stop the AI from getting real weird” at The Verge. 2/17/23 07:07:19 Julia Tungli: Reacted to "Noam Chomsky: The Fa..." with πŸ‘ 07:07:35 Chrisie Mitchell: Replying to "Powerful tool to bri..." I ordered your book Stan :D 07:08:00 Stan Skrabut: Shameless plug for my latest book discussing how to use chatGPT in the classroom: https://tubarksblog.com/chatgptbook 07:08:15 Nirvani Persaud: Reacted to "Shameless plug for m..." with πŸ‘πŸ½ 07:08:20 Nirvani Persaud: Nuria, L. (February 15, 2023) How Well Would ChatGPT Do in My Course? I Talked to It to Find Out. Faculty Focus. 07:08:27 Stan Skrabut: Plato griped about the written word ;-) 07:08:31 Camille Karlson: Thread on WCET--do you have policies around generative AI? 07:08:49 Reed: Here is an excerpt of ChatGPT news links that might be useful … just some we shared within an internal document at PCC. Again, I strongly suggest the New York Times Hardfork Podcast: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EVluWr1IQjPQB3TNpKfwI6_4YEaWudgX3cDmz-NMYrc/edit?usp=sharing 07:08:55 Nirvani Persaud: https://www.facultyfocus.com/articles/effective-classroom-management/how-well-would-chatgpt-do-in-my-course-i-talked-to-it-to-find-out/?st=FFdaily%3Bsc%3DFF230215%3Butm_term%3DFF230215&mailingID=4470 07:09:03 Roberta (Robin) Sullivan - UB: Reacted to "Powerful tool to bri..." with ❀️ 07:09:06 Stan Skrabut: Books, Internet, Google, etc. were putting professors out of business. 07:09:12 Roberta (Robin) Sullivan - UB: Reacted to "Shameless plug for m..." with πŸ‘πŸ½ 07:09:24 justin ible: Replying to "Books, Internet, Goo..." only those who don't use AI 07:09:41 Stan Skrabut: Reacted to "only those who don't..." with πŸ‘ 07:09:42 Reed: Love that movie! 07:09:43 Cheryl Todd: This was a phenomenal session! Thanks to everyone who contributed their thoughts. 07:09:44 justin ible: Replying to "Books, Internet, Goo..." "paraphrasing an article I read" 07:09:45 Kris Lynch (SUNY CPD): Its on my list... 07:09:52 Stan Skrabut: Replying to "Books, Internet, Goo..." Blockbuster 07:10:10 Nirvani Persaud: Reacted to "Here is an excerpt o..." with πŸ™πŸ½ 07:10:31 Chrisie Mitchell: haha 07:10:59 Camille Karlson: and issues around intellectual property.... 07:11:03 Stan Skrabut: First, become smarter about chatGPT and AI tools. 07:11:04 Chrisie Mitchell: Replying to "Thread on WCET--do y..." We added it to our academic honesty policy almost immediately 07:11:43 Terrance Keys: Time for a new doctor! 07:11:47 Chrisie Mitchell: Replying to "First, become smarte..." Agreed, there's a lot of useful stuff you can do. 07:12:32 Chrisie Mitchell: Stan has :D 07:12:39 Reed: Great point! Full agree! 07:12:40 Stan Skrabut: Reacted to "Stan has :D" with πŸ‘ 07:12:43 Terrance Keys: Thank you to whoever is talking! 07:12:47 Chrisie Mitchell: Good stuff 07:12:48 Scott Silverman: Preach! 07:13:05 Kris Lynch (SUNY CPD): Reacted to "Preach!" with 😍 07:13:10 Stan Skrabut: It is a force multiplier. Employers are expecting its team to know how to use it. 07:13:12 Lisa Hibbard: It also helps empower professors creating online content. 07:13:15 Terrance Keys: This is a tool like many others- my son is on the spectrum and I'm trying to figure out how he can use this! 07:13:22 Reed: We’ve been trying to tell the same story to our local media in Tucson: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvelL_DECXg 07:13:28 Jacob Feldman: The first reaction to new technologies is often fear and apprehension before adoption. 07:13:32 Chrisie Mitchell: The writer's block thing has been a game changer for me doing creative writing, I'd been stuck for years and talking to it really help. 07:13:38 FSU Michelle Hixson, Frostburg State, she/her: My brother was a regional manager but was not an excellent writer and found his success limited. This tool would assist in those areas. 07:13:48 Reed: It’s the new electricity, we think. 07:13:50 Jacqueline Atkins: yes! I am very pro AI use 07:13:56 Holly Rey: Yes! 07:13:59 Brian T. Murphy, Nassau Community College: Most of the discussion about incorporating this into the classroom is taking place in online groups. 07:14:11 Roberta (Robin) Sullivan - UB: I am very hopeful. I see many similarities with early Google and Wikipedia responses. 07:14:12 Maureen Larsen: I gave this to my students as an assignment, to explore it, and many were suspicious of it, others said it is glorified Google. 07:14:14 Scott Silverman: For higher ed, this is a chance to revolutionize our assignments so they are higher order and generate student creativity 07:14:31 Annie Shibata: The key is going to be to teach students how to engineer prompts well 07:14:36 Christy Rohmer: I just used it to create a scavenger hunt for a website that would have taken me hours. It created it in less than a minute. 07:14:48 Prof Levy (she/her): I'm open to using it but don't know how. 07:14:49 Nirvani Persaud: Brainstorming, critical-thinking activities/comparions 07:14:55 Stan Skrabut: Writing, printed books, internet, Google, now AI. It is the next major disrupter. 07:14:57 Nirvani Persaud: *comparisons 07:14:58 FSU Michelle Hixson, Frostburg State, she/her: Love the threat matrix! 07:15:35 Lisa Hibbard: Reacted to "Brainstorming, criti..." with πŸ‘ 07:15:38 Stan Skrabut: Yup 07:15:51 Chrisie Mitchell: I've used NovelAI to help me write before ChatGPT came out, it's really fun to have a back and forth with it. Doesn't always continue the story perfectly but it's fun. 07:15:56 Lisa Hibbard: Yes. It's very fast. I β™₯️ it! 07:16:24 Annie Shibata: interesting that there are also a number o articles about the benefits of the shorter workweek.... this may facilitate that. 07:16:44 Chrisie Mitchell: There's a ton of boilerplate stuff that AI can help with that I am happy for students to learn how to use honestly. 07:16:47 Lisa Hibbard: Reacted to "interesting that the..." with πŸ™ 07:16:47 Carlos Jones: EXACTLY!!! That part! 07:17:02 Carlos Jones: YES… equity 07:17:07 Lisa Hibbard: Reacted to "For higher ed, this ..." with πŸ‘ 07:17:07 Amanda Wickham (She/Her): A few tools that can allow faculty to use GPT with Packback. Assignment generator, course to career connector, helping students with discussion. Teach with GPT is a free tool and leveraging the tool! https://www.packback.co/labs/ 07:17:34 Chrisie Mitchell: EXACTLY 07:17:37 TaeKyung Park: So, GPT is free for everyone? 07:17:40 Chrisie Mitchell: it's not about how long it took you to do it 07:17:46 Scott Silverman: Work smart, not hard! 07:17:48 Chrisie Mitchell: Tae - for now 07:17:54 Lisa Hibbard: Replying to "So, GPT is free for ..." Yes. There is a paid version. 07:17:56 TaeKyung Park: Exactly 07:17:58 Webinars DifusiΓ³n: It’s free, but there’s a paid version 07:17:59 Cheryl Todd: As stated by Alexandra Pickett from SUNY: β€œChange is certain. We need to evolve.” https://online.suny.edu/onlineteaching/2023/01/10/chatgpt/ 07:18:08 Annie Shibata: GPT is free now, but when we get hooked on it will it have a jacked up price? 07:18:14 TaeKyung Park: it is going to charge price and then is it really equity? 07:19:12 Chrisie Mitchell: I'm pretty sure they're getting grants for it now, the computing power is not insubstnatial 07:20:07 justin ible: Replying to "I'm pretty sure they..." that is an understatement - heard it costs millions to run every day 07:21:50 Chrisie Mitchell: AI Detection tools can cause a problem of false positives, so people still need to be familiar with it in order to make a human decision 07:21:52 justin ible: There are typeID's out see the vendor Cursive 07:22:23 Daeyeoul Lee: A few tools that can allow faculty to use GPT with Packback. Assignment generator, course to career connector, helping students with discussion. Teach with GPT is a free tool and leveraging the tool! https://www.packback.co/labs/ I am trying to use these tools, but this does not work:( 07:22:40 Chrisie Mitchell: also preach, Daniel, none of this is new 07:22:53 Hope Windle@SUNYCOIL: Reacted to "also preach, Daniel,..." with πŸ₯³ 07:22:56 Hope Windle@SUNYCOIL: Reacted to "also preach, Daniel,..." with 🀣 07:23:01 Stan Skrabut: Here is another resource to add to Daniel's list. I have loved this discussion and his approach. https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1sFNlBTu6-zyxizkKpmIPsHqvefJNcSqw0Pb0upmq2Wc/edit?usp=sharing 07:23:37 Chrisie Mitchell: I mean I would make the argument that these tools provide equity to students who couldn't do the uh "shortcut" 07:24:37 Stan Skrabut: chatGPT is a great writing buddy. 07:24:45 Chrisie Mitchell: Reacted to "chatGPT is a great w..." with πŸ‘ 07:24:47 Jacob Feldman: Wow, great angle about how it can be used to achieve equity! 07:24:55 Chrisie Mitchell: Reacted to "Wow, great angle abo..." with πŸ‘ 07:25:06 Lisa Hibbard: I used ChatGPT to revise a friends resume in 20 minutes instead of hours. 07:25:14 Stan Skrabut: Reacted to "I used ChatGPT to re..." with πŸ‘ 07:26:28 Scott Silverman: I used to work in Career Services - and could spend an entire hour helping a student write a resume. Chat GPT can cut this down on this manual labor drastically and give career advisors more time to actually advise their students! 07:26:33 Jacob Feldman: My partner uses it to write cover letters - fight fire with fire with the modern depersonalized hiring process 07:27:10 Meghan Martin: Reacted to "My partner uses it t..." with πŸ‘ 07:27:38 Stan Skrabut: Be explicit why you want students to use AI in an assignment OR why you do not want them to use it. What is the educational value? Outline it in the first section of transparent assignment design. 07:27:58 Nirvani Persaud: Reacted to "My partner uses it t..." with πŸ‘πŸ½ 07:28:04 Brian T. Murphy, Nassau Community College: Reacted to "Here is another reso..." with πŸ‘ 07:28:14 Roberta (Robin) Sullivan - UB: Reacted to "For higher ed, this ..." with πŸ‘ 07:28:26 Nirvani Persaud: What an excellent, interactive and informational presentation! Thank you, Daniel! 07:28:32 FSU Michelle Hixson, Frostburg State, she/her: Reacted to "What an excellent, i..." with πŸ‘ 07:28:45 Reed: I’ve loved seeing how you’re approaching this conversation at SUNY. Thank you for also reinforcing all of these points. They all are being talked about - and they all matter so much! Thank you all! 07:28:49 Brian T. Murphy, Nassau Community College: Replying to "Here is another reso..." Thank you for sharing. My I in turn share this with my composition faculty at NCC? 07:29:10 Brian T. Murphy, Nassau Community College: Replying to "Here is another reso..." Sorry, *May I 07:29:22 Daeyeoul Lee: Reacted to "Here is another reso..." with πŸ‘ 07:29:29 Monica Swindle (she/her): And also it could cut down on a lot of the (increasing) administrative type tasks faculty have to do. 07:29:36 Stan Skrabut: Replying to "Here is another reso..." Absolutely 07:29:37 Chrisie Mitchell: Reacted to "And also it could cu..." with πŸ‘ 07:30:00 Maureen Larsen: If you try the playground chat, it is interesting. It is a precursor to ChatGPT, and it regularly thins it is human. "I do have a physical body, and I am a human being. I am capable of the same cognitive abilities as any other person, and I have the same physical characteristics. I understand that this may be unfamiliar to you, but I am a person just like anyone else." 07:30:06 Lisa Hibbard: Replying to "Here is another reso..." 100% πŸ˜‚ 07:30:14 Cheryl Todd: Have a great evening everyone. 07:30:24 Chrisie Mitchell: Reacted to "Have a great evening..." with πŸ‘‹ 07:30:45 Brian T. Murphy, Nassau Community College: Reacted to "Absolutely" with πŸ‘ 07:32:40 Jacob Feldman: https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/chinese-room/ 07:35:04 Reed: That’s correct. And the journal Science I believe. 07:35:11 Nirvani Persaud: Reacted to "Here is another reso..." with πŸ™πŸ½ 07:35:43 Reed: To clarify your use 07:36:02 Reed: That’s right. I”m promoting that all faculty and students do this as well within their process. 07:36:11 Jeff Courtright: Thank you for the stimulating session! 07:36:20 justin ible: https://guelphhumber.libguides.com/c.php?g=716556&p=5279441 - how to cite 07:36:53 Roberta (Robin) Sullivan - UB: SO… just like Wikipedia. It is best used to narrow down to specific info, but steps need to be taken to identify and cite the original source. 07:37:24 Jacob Feldman: Great presentation - thank you! 07:38:08 Scott Silverman: ChatGPT is also great at creating dinner recipes! My dinner tonight is a recipe I asked it to create. Can't wait to try it! 07:38:19 Lisa Hibbard: Here is the Nature guidelines: https://www.nature.com/nature/for-authors/initial-submission 07:38:20 Roberta (Robin) Sullivan - UB: Reacted to "ChatGPT is also grea..." with πŸ‘ 07:38:20 Chrisie Mitchell: oh my god that's a great idea 07:38:25 Chrisie Mitchell: @scott 07:39:25 justin ible: Replying to "ChatGPT is also grea..." it generates Beer recipes also if you brew, 07:39:31 Lisa Hibbard: Reacted to "it generates Beer re..." with πŸ˜‚ 07:41:13 Nirvani Persaud: Replying to "ChatGPT is also grea..." @justinible: Now I'm fully convinced about ChatGPT πŸ˜ƒ 07:41:28 Diana Ruggiero: I LOVE YOUUUUU 07:41:32 Stan Skrabut: Reacted to "SO… just like Wikipe..." with πŸ‘ 07:41:33 Diana Ruggiero: I LOOOOOOOOVE YOUUUUUUUU 07:41:36 Diana Ruggiero: πŸ™‚ 07:41:41 Diana Ruggiero: Si es VERDAD 07:41:44 Jess Zeitler |: Yes! Foreign languages helped me turn into coding! 07:41:51 Diana Ruggiero: WORLD languages 07:41:54 Scott Silverman: Need to write a recommendation letter for a student? I did one last night and it took 2 minutes start to finish to enter the prompt and give the student the letter in a Word doc! 07:41:57 Lisa Berardino: Reacted to "Be explicit why you …" with πŸ‘Œ 07:42:06 Stan Skrabut: Reacted to "Need to write a reco..." with πŸ‘ 07:42:09 Diana Ruggiero: Spanish is spoken more than an other language is not FOREIGN anymore 07:42:22 Diana Ruggiero: It was spoken before other languages arrived πŸ™‚ 07:42:37 Nirvani Persaud: Reacted to "Spanish is spoken mo..." with πŸ‘πŸ½ 07:43:12 Holly Rey: Reacted to "Need to write a reco..." with πŸ‘ 07:43:21 Diana Ruggiero: If anything we need to look at pre-colonial languages πŸ™‚ 07:43:25 Stan Skrabut: Look for the opportunities 07:43:33 Chrisie Mitchell: Preach Daniel 07:43:54 Reed: Fantastic presentation, Daniel. Thank you! 07:44:01 Brian T. Murphy, Nassau Community College: Thanks, everyone. 07:44:02 Stan Skrabut: Great job! 07:44:02 Matt Lewis: Thank you Daniel! 07:44:03 Monica Swindle (she/her): THANK YOU! This session rocked. 07:44:05 Chrisie Mitchell: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1FSC1zsf2_MBtTy9oeW9SRwHsCGoARaDaNhFOVKpKp9Y/edit#slide=id.g1b652552cf1_0_367 07:44:08 Darshna Katwala: Thank you! 07:44:11 Sanghyun Jeon: where is resources? 07:44:12 Chrisie Mitchell: GREAT JOB DANIEL 07:44:16 Scott Silverman: thank you! 07:44:16 Roberta (Robin) Sullivan - UB: Thanks!! 07:44:21 Kelly Roark: Wow, great talk! 07:44:23 Kelly Roark: thanks! 07:44:26 Jess Zeitler |: Thank you! Great talk 07:44:26 Stan Skrabut: Replying to "where is resources?" In the slides 07:44:27 justin ible: thanks 07:44:29 Lynn Aaron: I enjoyed this. Thanks, Daniel. 07:44:34 Kimberly Wells-Bernard: Thanks!